[Pafgbt] PAF beam spacing on the GBT for a pulsar survey
Matt Morgan
mmorgan2 at nrao.edu
Tue Apr 13 12:08:46 EDT 2010
To add a third perspective, you might consider what expands the
parameter space the most (compared to other available instruments, that
is). PALFA of course is a feedhorn array, so I suspect their beam
spacing was not a strategy but a limitation. Mapping large areas with
spaced beams is something feedhorn arrays like PALFA can already do.
Mapping smaller areas fast with uniform sensitivity and tightly spaced
beams is something only a PAF can do. I'd emphasize what makes you unique.
That's purely an engineer's perspective, but I think its the right way
to optimize a general-purpose instrument. Optimizing for a particular
usage case is more appropriate I think for application-specific or
experiment-driven instruments. So to me the question is, which type of
instrument is this -- general-purpose or application-specific?
Matt
Paul Demorest wrote:
> Rick,
>
> At this level, I think it's kind of a matter of opinion. I know we had a
> few emails expressing varying thoughts on the topic already ;) However,
> survey speed is definitely the most commonly used metric for these
> comparisons. We could always try it both ways, maximize survey speed vs
> maximize expected number of sources and see how different the answer is..
>
> -Paul
>
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Rick Fisher wrote:
>
>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> Do we want to maximize the integral of (G/T)^2, or should the pulsar
>> population as a function of flux density be factored in? If
>> completeness is an issue, a steeper log(N)-log(S) curve would favor
>> closer spacings since more pulsars would be discovered near the
>> sensitivity limit. This would be particularly true for new pulsars.
>>
>> I realize that PALFA uses interlaced pointings to fill in closer
>> spacings, but their "47 pointings to cover one square degree" still
>> implies -3 dB crossings (assuming 3.3 arcmin HPBW).
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Paul Demorest wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Rick,
>>>
>>> There is a nice picture of the ALFA beam shape at the top of this page:
>>>
>>> http://www2.naic.edu/alfa/gen_info/info_obs.shtml
>>>
>>> maybe you've seen this already, but the beams are widely spaced, crossing
>>> at about -6dB. They get -3dB spacing in the actual survey by filling in
>>> the holes with multiple pointings.
>>>
>>> To determine an optimal beam spacing (for a given array+telescope) I think
>>> we want to maximize the integral of (G/T)^2 over the field of view. That
>>> should result in the highest possible survey speed. Then we should check
>>> the figures we used for the comparison with PMB and Efflesburg surveys and
>>> see if any claims need to be revised.
>>>
>>> I'd guess the survey speed goes down by a factor of ~2 vs ideal
>>> fully-spaced beams, but maybe the optimization could make this only ~1.5 or
>>> so?
>>>
>>> -Paul
>>>
>>> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Rick Fisher wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> In writing an MRI proposal for the construction of a PAF for the GBT
>>>> we've
>>>> run into a conundrum that we should have anticipated much earlier. Any
>>>> thoughts on the following will be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that the "plate scale" (linear feed offset distance per
>>>> angular beam offset in HPBWs) is roughly twice as large on the GBT as it
>>>> is on the 20-meter telescope where we have done our PAF tests. Hence,
>>>> our
>>>> 19-element array can accommodate only half as many HPBW offsets as the
>>>> 20-meter before the focal spot loses significant power off the edge of
>>>> the
>>>> array. The attached plot calculated by Karl Warnick shows
>>>> Tsys/aperture_efficiency as a function of beam offset for the GBT. Going
>>>> to 37 elements (or even more) is something that we clearly want to do in
>>>> the long run, but it's a big step up in all aspects of the array system
>>>> (Dewar size, number of receiver channels, real-time beamformer size,
>>>> etc.).
>>>>
>>>> I am wondering if the best strategy for this proposal will be to stay
>>>> with
>>>> the 19-element array as the next logical step and to form 7 beams on the
>>>> GBT with the 6 outer beams spaced about 0.6 HPBW from the center beam.
>>>> This is essentially Nyquist spacing, but it is different from the
>>>> strategy
>>>> used in the Arecibo PALFA survey.
>>>>
>>>> The PALFA web site says that they are using 47, 7-beam pointings to cover
>>>> one square degree of sky. This would imply that their beams cross at
>>>> about the 3-dB level, which means that most of the sky is covered with
>>>> sensitivity considerably below peak beam sensitivity. If we use 0.5 or
>>>> 0.6 HPBW spacing we won't cover as much sky in beam areas, but the
>>>> relative average sensitivity within this area will be considerably
>>>> higher.
>>>> Does this sound like a reasonable enough trade-off to justify putting a
>>>> 19-element array on the GBT as the first science instrument?
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>>
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