[evlatests] Bandpass Ripple in ea28, RCP, L-band
Dan Mertely
dmertely at nrao.edu
Fri Oct 4 17:01:10 EDT 2019
Hi Rick. Could you tell me the dates of the observations?
We worked on the W8mon back on 4 September, but haven't
heard whether our connector cleaning fixed the problem.
-Mert
On 10/4/2019 10:28 AM, Rick Perley via evlatests wrote:
> I'd like to return to this topic, with some more information.
>
> There is no doubt that the W8 RFI monitor is the guilty party. The
> new information is this:
>
> The data came in three configurations: For the first, ea24 was on
> W8. For the second and third, ea28 was on W8. In reviewing the
> calibration, I find:F
>
> a)The rapid oscillation noted before is on these antennas -- and
> only these antennas.
>
> b) The cross-polarization signals (RL and LR correlations) are
> *completely ruined* on all baselines connected to ea24 for the first
> configuration, and ea28 for the other two.
>
> The reason for this cross-polarization problem is that the
> fine-scale ripple is both extremely large, and extremely time variable.
> So there is no way we can realistically 'calibrate it out'. No
> doubt the parallel-hand signal (for the polarization used for that
> monitor) is similarly affected by the time variability.
>
> The fact that this problem was easily visible on two different
> antennas (which occupied the same pad -- W8), on three observations
> spanning many months, strongly suggests that many other observations
> have been affected.
>
> Hence my questions:
>
> A) Has the current problem (with ea28) been repaired?
>
> B) Do we really need this monitor? Unless the reflection
> associated with this monitor is reduced by at least 20dB, the
> observational data cannot be used.
>
>
> On 9/3/19 2:42 PM, jjackson via evlatests wrote:
>> Wes and I just had a chat about this and our chief suspect would be
>> the W8 RFI monitor cable that is connected to L-band on this antenna.
>> The length is just too long for anything else to make sense on a
>> single polarization. 30 meters would be about right for the length of
>> the cable running down the antenna. We'll have someone take a look at
>> it.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/3/2019 11:01 AM, Rick Perley via evlatests wrote:
>>> Bandpass solutions from my Cygnus A observations, taken in April
>>> and August this year show a strong bandpass ripple in RCP only, for
>>> antenna 28 and L-band. The period of the ripple is about 4.6 MHz,
>>> corresponding to 30 meters if the cause is a reflection. The problem
>>> was not visible in data taken in December last year.
>>>
>>> The ripple pattern is strongly time dependent (both in its
>>> amplitude and phase), so is very difficult to calibrate out.
>>>
>>>
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