[evlatests] Bandpass Ripple in ea28, RCP, L-band
Rick Perley
rperley at nrao.edu
Fri Oct 4 17:04:26 EDT 2019
The C configuration data were taken 15 Dec, 2018.
The B configuration data were taken 18 Apr, 2019
The A configuration data were taken 16 Aug, 2019
Rick
On 10/4/19 3:01 PM, Dan Mertely via evlatests wrote:
> Hi Rick. Could you tell me the dates of the observations?
> We worked on the W8mon back on 4 September, but haven't
> heard whether our connector cleaning fixed the problem.
> -Mert
>
> On 10/4/2019 10:28 AM, Rick Perley via evlatests wrote:
>> I'd like to return to this topic, with some more information.
>>
>> There is no doubt that the W8 RFI monitor is the guilty party.
>> The new information is this:
>>
>> The data came in three configurations: For the first, ea24 was
>> on W8. For the second and third, ea28 was on W8. In reviewing the
>> calibration, I find:F
>>
>> a)The rapid oscillation noted before is on these antennas -- and
>> only these antennas.
>>
>> b) The cross-polarization signals (RL and LR correlations) are
>> *completely ruined* on all baselines connected to ea24 for the first
>> configuration, and ea28 for the other two.
>>
>> The reason for this cross-polarization problem is that the
>> fine-scale ripple is both extremely large, and extremely time
>> variable. So there is no way we can realistically 'calibrate it
>> out'. No doubt the parallel-hand signal (for the polarization
>> used for that monitor) is similarly affected by the time variability.
>>
>> The fact that this problem was easily visible on two different
>> antennas (which occupied the same pad -- W8), on three observations
>> spanning many months, strongly suggests that many other observations
>> have been affected.
>>
>> Hence my questions:
>>
>> A) Has the current problem (with ea28) been repaired?
>>
>> B) Do we really need this monitor? Unless the reflection
>> associated with this monitor is reduced by at least 20dB, the
>> observational data cannot be used.
>>
>>
>> On 9/3/19 2:42 PM, jjackson via evlatests wrote:
>>> Wes and I just had a chat about this and our chief suspect would be
>>> the W8 RFI monitor cable that is connected to L-band on this
>>> antenna. The length is just too long for anything else to make sense
>>> on a single polarization. 30 meters would be about right for the
>>> length of the cable running down the antenna. We'll have someone
>>> take a look at it.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/3/2019 11:01 AM, Rick Perley via evlatests wrote:
>>>> Bandpass solutions from my Cygnus A observations, taken in
>>>> April and August this year show a strong bandpass ripple in RCP
>>>> only, for antenna 28 and L-band. The period of the ripple is about
>>>> 4.6 MHz, corresponding to 30 meters if the cause is a reflection.
>>>> The problem was not visible in data taken in December last year.
>>>>
>>>> The ripple pattern is strongly time dependent (both in its
>>>> amplitude and phase), so is very difficult to calibrate out.
>>>>
>>>>
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