Geoff sent a message which our mailer rejected as too full of content: "The following is a short summary from Wolfgang Wild on the cryo/optics meeting at RAL. Geoff" Not short enough Wolfgang! I placed this at: http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~awootten/mmaimcal/SummaryRALCryoOpticsmeeting26Sep01.pdf for your easy retrieval. Clear skies, Al