[wfc] Fwd: [Iaufec] disbandment of the Regional Committees, THIRD step
Robert J. Hanisch
hanisch at stsci.edu
Wed Oct 16 12:58:36 EDT 2013
It is just the regional committees that are being disbanded, as they no longer reflect where astronomy is being done, and in the Internet age, the concept is a bit retro.
All will be able to participate equally in the future.
Bob
From: Rob Seaman <seaman at noao.edu<mailto:seaman at noao.edu>>
Date: Wednesday, 16 October 2013 12:06 PM
To: Arnold Rots <arots at cfa.harvard.edu<mailto:arots at cfa.harvard.edu>>
Cc: "wfc at nrao.edu<mailto:wfc at nrao.edu>" <wfc at nrao.edu<mailto:wfc at nrao.edu>>
Subject: Re: [wfc] Fwd: [Iaufec] disbandment of the Regional Committees, THIRD step
Hi Arnold, et al,
Interesting. Regarding the shutdown, NOAO just got a reprieve until at least 3 November. Regarding obsolescence, recent discussions about dramatic changes to the FITS standard might suggest otherwise ;-)
Rob
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On Oct 16, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Arnold Rots <arots at cfa.harvard.edu<mailto:arots at cfa.harvard.edu>> wrote:
Dear friends at the WFC - the Regional North-American FITS Committee,
I am forwarding a recent message from Lucio Chiappetti, the chair of the
IAU FITS Working Group, who is inching closer to move our committee
into obsolescence.
He has posted a revision of the voting rules for the IAU FWG and will
announce that on FITSBITS, but I thought you should have some
forewarning on this.
He sent one more message on the subject which I will also forward.
Cheers,
- Arnold
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From: Lucio Chiappetti <lucio at lambrate.inaf.it<mailto:lucio at lambrate.inaf.it>>
Date: Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 8:46 AM
Subject: [Iaufec] disbandment of the Regional Committees, THIRD step
To: IAU-FITS Executive Committee <iaufec at nrao.edu<mailto:iaufec at nrao.edu>>
Dear members of the IAU FWG Executive,
with some delay I am proceeding to
the next step of the procedure to change the IAU FITS WG voting rules,
i.e. preparing the final draft for submission to FITSBITS.
First of all I would like to know how many of the IAUFEC members are
affected by the US Government shutdown. I would appreciate an explicit
acknowledgment via private e-mail by Bob, Bill and Arnold that they can
receive this message via the exploder, and interact.
- if any one of them does not reply, the deadline to pass to the next
step will be extended until they come back on line
- conversely if everybody replies before the deadline of end October
and we can freeze a draft earlier, we could submit it to fitsbits
as soon as it is ready
I have prepared a new draft taking into account the comments received so
far by the IAUFWG. The revised version (with links to the older ONES) is
at the usual place
http://sax.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/FITS/Proposal/newrules.html
Please note what follows:
- the buttons to hide "deleted text" now hides also "comments", so one
can have an idea of what the final text will look like
- I received several comments agains the "co-optation" of members of the
EC, and some general comments about membership of the IAUFWG, terms of
service etc.
I believe we should proceed quickly to the definition of new voting
rules ("without regional committees") and apply them ASAP to vote the
Timing WCS proposal.
Therefore I strongly suggest that we confine now to this
relatively simple voting rule change, and DEFER any matter about
composition of the EC, nomination of FWG members, and more complex
"weighted" voting rules to LATER DISCUSSION
This is indicated by the text hilighted in red on the page
Also (as a comment states) the introductory sentence is not to be
taken as part of the voting rules, but merely describes the current
composition of the EC.
- I would however encourage Preben Grosbol to present a formal proposal
for various "member categories" (points 5/6/7 of his Sep 23 message)
and eventual "weighted" voting rules.
- I would like to stress to Don Wells that I fully appreciate the sense
of the 6-month rule to instigate unanimous consensus. On the other
hand many people may have the impression that we are very slow to
decide on anything (possibly because we are busy otherwise) ...
that's why I suggested going from 6 to 3 (somebody even advocated
2) months for "re-thinking" ... we could as well decrease the voting
period from 3 weeks to 2 (but I guess not shorter than that because of
conferences, observing campaigns, holidays ... or events like the
shutdown)
- concerning mailing lists, after the poll I conducted I drew a
compromise among the various suggestions and will act ASAP autonomously
as described at the end of the web page. So it is possible that persons
who were on the mailing lists just ex officio without being currently
members will receive this as the last message.
Please read the page
http://sax.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/FITS/Proposal/newrules.html
as soon as you can, and give me (public replies on this mailing list)
suggestions about things to change (including comments to be "disclosed"
or removed) etc.
Lucio
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