[mmaimcal] ATF extended until September

[Bryan Butler]

we've had some discussions with them, but nothing serious yet.  we are 
also intending to use splatalogue in the OPT, but haven't gotten into 
the details of the query servlet that serves up the splatalogue 
information yet.

	-bryan



Al Wootten wrote:
> Well that is great.  We need to get this information to the OT people in
> Europe.  B Glendenning--is Gianni aware?  The OT needs to be using this
> calibrator data as it uses splatalogue line frequencies.
> 
> And we need to know how to get ALMA data in also; the ATF is a good
> place to start.
> 
> Clear skies,
> Al
> Bryan Butler writes:
>  > 
>  > just checked.  we have in the current database the calibrator lists from:
>  >   . VLA
>  >   . VLBA
>  >   . GBT
>  >   . CARMA
>  >   . PdBI
>  > 
>  > we don't have ATCA/MOPRA in there yet - i'll get them to do that in the 
>  > near future.
>  > 
>  > 	-bryan
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Bryan Butler wrote:
>  > > we have such a database for VLA and VLBA now.  in fact we also have the 
>  > > CARMA list there too.  we talked at one point about ATCA but i don't 
>  > > know if they got that one in.  i'll inquire.  dave harland and his guys 
>  > > are incorporating these catalogs into the EVLA OPT (the equivalent of 
>  > > Phase II of the ALMA OT).  they don't have the snazzy search tool yet 
>  > > (there's a prototype but it's not ready for prime time), but at least 
>  > > the database of sources is there.
>  > > 
>  > > 	-bryan
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > Al Wootten wrote:
>  > >> Hi Bryan
>  > >>
>  > >> If there were a usable common EVLA/GBT/ALMA database that would be best. 
>  > >>  My understanding is that that does not exist yet.  ALMA needs a 
>  > >> database for calibrators pronto, in my opinion.  The OT needs that 
>  > >> database yesterday.  We will present the OT to the users January 2010 at 
>  > >> the AAS Town Hall and we should do something at the AAS Town Hall Jan 
>  > >> 2009 to show users what to expect.  It won't do to say "Go try to find a 
>  > >> calibrator among the existing lists."  The first antenna will be at 
>  > >> 5000m in August (though not to stay)!
>  > >>
>  > >> Clear skies,
>  > >> Al
>  > >>
>  > >> Bryan Butler wrote:
>  > >>> i think ed was thinking more for the purposes of mmVLB itself (the CMV 
>  > >>> runs) rather than for the purposes of ALMA.  but maybe i'm 
>  > >>> misinterpreting his original email.
>  > >>>
>  > >>>     -bryan
>  > >>>
>  > >>>
>  > >>> Al Wootten wrote:
>  > >>>
>  > >>>> Hi Harvey
>  > >>>>
>  > >>>> Yes, but we need to get an ALMA database ready to run when we get to the
>  > >>>> S. Hemisphere.  We can't rely on others for long; the ATF already has
>  > >>>> the SMA sensitivity and at 3mm where the SMA does not operate.  Also,
>  > >>>> we are interested in calibrators which will be appropriate for ALMA but
>  > >>>> are too weak for the current generation of interferometers to bother 
>  > >>>> with.
>  > >>>> It will be harder to get something going with the myriad distractions 
>  > >>>> in Chile.
>  > >>>> The OT will not go to a ragtag collection of interferometers to find 
>  > >>>> out what to
>  > >>>> observe; it needs its own database, which Ed and others are developing.
>  > >>>>
>  > >>>> Clear skies,
>  > >>>> Al
>  > >>>> Harvey Liszt writes:
>  > >>>>  > Wouldn't it be easier just to go to the calibrator lists of the 
>  > >>>> CARMA,  > SMA, and PdBI interferomters?
>  > >>>>  >  > H.
>  > >>>>  > -----------------------------------------
>  > >>>>  > Ed Fomalont wrote:
>  > >>>>  > > Hello all,
>  > >>>>  > >  > >     I would be interested in observing many 'VLBA' 
>  > >>>> calibrators at the  > > ATF in order to see how strong they are at 
>  > >>>> the high frequencies.  My  > > guess is that there might be several 
>  > >>>> hundred calibrators strong enough  > > (at least this week) to be put 
>  > >>>> into the system.
>  > >>>>  > >  > >     Cheers,  Ed
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