[mmaimcal] draft results of holography sensitivity calculations
Bryan Butler
bbutler at nrao.edu
Mon Dec 6 13:08:55 EST 2004
hmmm, i thought i had once calculated that the line sources win. i must
have miscalculated or used different numbers. planets don't help much -
uranus is only around 8 Jy. mars might be OK if the baseline is short
enough and the geometry is right (so that it's bigger than a few asec,
but not at opposition [20 asec-ish]). if you thought you could do
holography at 1mm, then uranus would start to be a good option, though
it starts to get resolved unless the baseline is short...
-bryan
On 12/6/04 10:27, Mark Holdaway wrote:
>> >>> > Furthermore, I use my canonical ``quiescent'' 3C273
>> >>> > spectrum, which pegs the non-flaring 90~GHz flux of 3C273 at 15 Jy.
>> >>> > Planets cannot be used for interferometric holography, and 3C273 will
>> >>> > be among the brightest of compact sources that could be used at 90
>> >>> > GHz.
>>
>> the SiO masers (mostly from the envelopes of stars) will be better.
>> couple of hundred Jy, if memory serves. very compact (for the purposes
>> of doing two-element interferometry, where you want the dishes close
>> together). variable (factor of 2 or so), but so what, since you're just
>> doing holography.
>
> Hey! The calculation:
>
> Quoting from some great past unknown E-mail god
> (probably Rick Perley:)
>>
>> For a line source, it is
>>
>> Smean x sqrt(Linewidth).
>>
>> where Smean is the mean flux density in the line over the
>> Linewidth.
>>
>> Wright et al. (AJ, Vol 99, p1299, 1990) give calibrated profiles
>> of SiO transitions from numerous sources. The beefiest of these is
>> W Hya, although Orion-IRc2 is close. For both, the mean intensity
>> is about 500 Jy, and the equivalent linewidth is 10 km/sec = 2.9 MHz.
>> Thus, in 'astronomers' units', the equivalent SNR in a line
>> is 750 Jy.sqrt(MHz).
>>
>
> 3C273: 15 Jy * sqrt(8000MHz) = 1340 Jy.sqrt(MHz)
>
> ie, 3C273 WINS
>
>
>> >>> > I've made a simple holography simulation package in AIPS++/glish
>> >>> > (this software package is really great for things like this, I must
>> >>> > say; it is such a pity that AIPS++/glish is so underappreciated
>> >>> > and underutilized).
>>
>> i made a similar simulation package in IDL, which i am happy to send to
>> anybody if they want it. it is described in VLBA test memos 57 (the
>> theory) and 62 (describing the simulations). i also implemented it in
>> good old FORTRAN, which is significantly faster and doesn't need an IDL
>> license, but doesn't give you a nice graphical display... it allows for
>> investigations of sensitivity to raster size, oversampling factor, SNR,
>> phase rms, amplitude rms (gain fluctuations), pointing errors (both
>> fixed offset and rms for both the fixed and rastering antennas), and
>> type of transform...
>
> Sounds like I reinvented your wheel.
>
>> >>> > The problem is now: what does the
>> >>> > peak SNR mean? Darrel Emerson made a hand-waving argument that
>> >>> > translates the peak SNR in the image plane to the sensitivity to
>> >>> > surface errors in the aperture plane, and it is probably correct
>> to within
>> >>> > a factor of 2-4, depending on how we slice it.
>>
>> you don't have to hand wave (and i'm sure darrel can calculate this
>> properly, he's an expert in these things...). the errors look like:
>> e_{max} ~ l N / (pi SNR)
>> e_{rms} ~ l N / (5 pi SNR)
>> for wavelength l, and raster size N. again, see the above two VLBA
>> memos for the derivation, theoretically, and the simulations...
>>
>> -bryan
>>
>
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