[mmaimcal] draft results of holography sensitivity calculations
Jeff Mangum
jmangum at nrao.edu
Mon Dec 6 12:44:05 EST 2004
Hi Bryan,
"Bryan" == Bryan Butler <bbutler at nrao.edu> writes:
Bryan> OK, more comments, since i just skimmed more deeply into the email...
>>
>> "Mark" == Mark Holdaway <mholdawa at tuc.nrao.edu> writes:
>>
>>>> > Furthermore, I use my canonical ``quiescent'' 3C273
>>>> > spectrum, which pegs the non-flaring 90~GHz flux of 3C273 at 15 Jy.
>>>> > Planets cannot be used for interferometric holography, and 3C273 will
>>>> > be among the brightest of compact sources that could be used at 90
>>>> > GHz.
Bryan> the SiO masers (mostly from the envelopes of stars) will be better.
Bryan> couple of hundred Jy, if memory serves. very compact (for the purposes
Bryan> of doing two-element interferometry, where you want the dishes close
Bryan> together). variable (factor of 2 or so), but so what, since you're just
Bryan> doing holography.
Right, this was where Robert and I ended-up when we last discussed
this issue. This would have to be done at 3mm. I point this out
because OOF beam maps would have to be done at 1mm (for several
reasons, most notably the limited focus translation stage range,
unless my CRE is adopted).
>>>> > I've made a simple holography simulation package in AIPS++/glish
>>>> > (this software package is really great for things like this, I must
>>>> > say; it is such a pity that AIPS++/glish is so underappreciated
>>>> > and underutilized).
Bryan> i made a similar simulation package in IDL, which i am happy to send to
Bryan> anybody if they want it. it is described in VLBA test memos 57 (the
Bryan> theory) and 62 (describing the simulations). i also implemented it in
Bryan> good old FORTRAN, which is significantly faster and doesn't need an IDL
Bryan> license, but doesn't give you a nice graphical display... it allows for
Bryan> investigations of sensitivity to raster size, oversampling factor, SNR,
Bryan> phase rms, amplitude rms (gain fluctuations), pointing errors (both
Bryan> fixed offset and rms for both the fixed and rastering antennas), and
Bryan> type of transform...
Oooo! Please send both to me! Especially interested in the IDL
version (but am aware of the drawbacks for the reasons you describe).
>>>> > The problem is now: what does the
>>>> > peak SNR mean? Darrel Emerson made a hand-waving argument that
>>>> > translates the peak SNR in the image plane to the sensitivity to
>>>> > surface errors in the aperture plane, and it is probably correct
Bryan> to within
>>>> > a factor of 2-4, depending on how we slice it.
Bryan> you don't have to hand wave (and i'm sure darrel can calculate this
Bryan> properly, he's an expert in these things...). the errors look like:
Bryan> e_{max} ~ l N / (pi SNR)
Bryan> e_{rms} ~ l N / (5 pi SNR)
Bryan> for wavelength l, and raster size N. again, see the above two VLBA
Bryan> memos for the derivation, theoretically, and the simulations...
--- Jeff
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