[daip] Flux calibrator model problems with U-band VLA-only observations?

Jeff Mangum jmangum at nrao.edu
Thu Jun 26 20:55:53 EDT 2008


Thanks Amy.  I will likely try both solutions.  Why would my 
single-frequency observations end-up with two FREQIDs?

-- Jeff

On 6/26/08 7:11 PM, Amy Mioduszewski wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> O.K., I down loaded your data and when I ran CALIB on 3C286 it dies 
> with or without the model, with 3C48 CALIB worked with or without the 
> model.  So the problem did not seem to be the model.
>
> So, after much fooling around I discover that your data has 2 FREQIDs 
> and 3C268 is under FREQID 2.  So you can either load the data into 
> different files for the different FREQIDs (which I would recommend 
> since they are different sources), or use the FREQID parameter.
>
> Sorry that took so long.
>
> Amy
>
> Jeff Mangum wrote:
>> Thanks Amy.  -- Jeff
>>
>> On 6/25/08 10:50 AM, Amy Mioduszewski wrote:
>>> I will work on it this week.
>>>
>>> Amy
>>>
>>> Jeff Mangum wrote:
>>>> Hi Amy,
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas as to what is going on with these data?  I still have 
>>>> been unsuccessful at processing them, and I have another block of 
>>>> similar data that I would like to check-out once the current 
>>>> problem is resolved.  Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> -- Jeff
>>>>
>>>> On 5/19/08 3:53 PM, Jeff Mangum wrote:
>>>>> ok.  I am still banking on something stupid on my end.
>>>>> Note, though, that the data is odd by VLA standards.  Only 14 
>>>>> antennas (VLA antennas only; U-band).
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/19/08 3:51 PM, Amy Mioduszewski wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well your error message, or I should say lack of error message, 
>>>>>> is very odd.  We wonder if you tickled an obscure bug somewhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff Mangum wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Amy,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/19/08 12:06 PM, Amy Mioduszewski wrote:
>>>>>>>> Those look O.K..  I think I am actually going to have to look 
>>>>>>>> at your data. Could you put it somewhere I can ftp it?
>>>>>>> Yup.  I have put the archive files at 
>>>>>>> http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~jmangum/AM941.  Let me know when you 
>>>>>>> have them as I would like to free-up the disk space.
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> Thank you!  I fully expect that I am doing something stupid.  
>>>>>>> One thing that crosses my mind is the change from visibilities 
>>>>>>> to raw correlation coefficients may be tripping me up, although 
>>>>>>> I would have expected a more informative warning if this was the 
>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- Jeff
>>>>>>>> Amy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jeff Mangum wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Here you go...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- Jeff
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  >inp calib
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: CALIB:  Task to determine calibration for data.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: Adverbs     Values                 Comments
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: 
>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    Input uv data.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: INNAME     '20080223'                 UV file name (name)
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: INCLASS    'CH 0'                     UV file name 
>>>>>>>>> (class)
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: INSEQ         1                       UV file name 
>>>>>>>>> (seq. #)
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: INDISK        1                       UV file disk 
>>>>>>>>> drive #
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    Data selection 
>>>>>>>>> (multisource):
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: CALSOUR    '1331+305'              Calibrator sources
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:            *rest ' '
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: QUAL         -1                    Calibrator 
>>>>>>>>> qualifier -1=>all
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: CALCODE    ' '                     Calibrator code 
>>>>>>>>> '    '=>all
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: SELBAND      -1                    Bandwidth to select 
>>>>>>>>> (kHz)
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: SELFREQ      -1                    Frequency to select 
>>>>>>>>> (MHz)
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: FREQID        1                    Freq. ID to select.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: TIMERANG   *all 0                  Time range to use.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: BCHAN         1                    Lowest channel 
>>>>>>>>> number 0=>all
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: ECHAN         0                    Highest channel number
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: ANTENNAS   *all 0                  Antennas to select. 
>>>>>>>>> 0=all
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: DOFIT      *all 0                  Subset of ANTENNAS 
>>>>>>>>> list for
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: ** press RETURN for more, enter Q or next line to quit 
>>>>>>>>> print **
>>>>>>>>> #
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    which solns are 
>>>>>>>>> desired.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: ANTUSE     *all 0                  Mean gain is 
>>>>>>>>> calculated
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    (CPARM(2)>0) using 
>>>>>>>>> only the
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    listed antennas. 
>>>>>>>>> See explain.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: SUBARRAY      0                    Subarray, 0=>all
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: UVRANGE       0           0        Range of uv 
>>>>>>>>> distance for full
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    weight
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: WTUV          0                    Weight outside 
>>>>>>>>> UVRANGE 0=0.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: WEIGHTIT      0                    Modify data weights 
>>>>>>>>> function
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    Cal. info for input:
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: DOCALIB       0                    > 0 calibrate data 
>>>>>>>>> & weights
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    > 99 do NOT 
>>>>>>>>> calibrate weights
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: GAINUSE       0                    CL table to apply.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: DOPOL        -1                    If >0 correct 
>>>>>>>>> polarization.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: BLVER        -1                    BL table to apply.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: FLAGVER       0                    Flag table version
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: DOBAND       -1                    If >0 apply 
>>>>>>>>> bandpass cal.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    Method used depends 
>>>>>>>>> on value
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    of DOBAND (see HELP 
>>>>>>>>> file).
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: BPVER        -1                    Bandpass table version
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: SMOOTH     *all 0                  Smoothing function. 
>>>>>>>>> See
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: ** press RETURN for more, enter Q or next line to quit 
>>>>>>>>> print **
>>>>>>>>> #
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    HELP SMOOTH for 
>>>>>>>>> details.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    CLEAN map. See HELP.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: IN2NAME    '3C286_U'                  Cleaned map name 
>>>>>>>>> (name)
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: IN2CLASS   'MODEL'                    Cleaned map name 
>>>>>>>>> (class)
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: IN2SEQ        0                       Cleaned map name 
>>>>>>>>> (seq. #)
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: IN2DISK       1                       Cleaned map disk 
>>>>>>>>> unit #
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: INVERS        0                    CC file version #.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: NCOMP      *all 0                  # comps to use for 
>>>>>>>>> model.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    1 value per field
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: FLUX          0                    Lowest CC component 
>>>>>>>>> used.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: NMAPS         0                    No. Clean map files
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: CMETHOD    ' '                     Modeling method:
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    'DFT','GRID','    '
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: CMODEL     ' '                     Model type: 
>>>>>>>>> 'COMP','IMAG'
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: SMODEL     *all 0                  Source model, 
>>>>>>>>> 1=flux,2=x,3=y
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    See HELP SMODEL for 
>>>>>>>>> models.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    Output uv data file.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: OUTNAME    ' '                        UV file name (name)
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: OUTCLASS   ' '                        UV file name 
>>>>>>>>> (class)
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: ** press RETURN for more, enter Q or next line to quit 
>>>>>>>>> print **
>>>>>>>>> #
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: OUTSEQ        0                       UV file name 
>>>>>>>>> (seq. #)
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: OUTDISK       1                       UV file disk 
>>>>>>>>> drive #
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    Solution control 
>>>>>>>>> adverbs:
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: REFANT       22                    Reference antenna
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: SOLINT        0                    Solution interval 
>>>>>>>>> (min)
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: SOLSUB        0                    Solution subinterval
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: SOLMIN        0                    Min solution interval
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: APARM         4           0        General parameters
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:               0           0           1=min. no. antennas
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:               0           2           2 > 0 => data 
>>>>>>>>> divided
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:            *rest 0                    3 > 0 => avg. RR,LL
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                       5 > 0 => avg. IFs.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                       6=print level, 
>>>>>>>>> 1=good,
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                         2 closure, 3 SNR
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                       7=SNR cutoff (0=>5)
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                       8=max. ant. # 
>>>>>>>>> (no AN)
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                       9 > 0 => pass 
>>>>>>>>> failed soln
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                      10 < 99 cal 
>>>>>>>>> output weights
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    Phase-amplitude 
>>>>>>>>> Parameters:
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: DOFLAG        0                    Flag on closure error?
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: ** press RETURN for more, enter Q or next line to quit 
>>>>>>>>> print **
>>>>>>>>> #
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: SOLTYPE    ' '                     Soln type,'  
>>>>>>>>> ','L1','GCON',
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                       'R', 'L1R', 'GCOR'
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: SOLMODE    'A&P'                   Soln. mode: 
>>>>>>>>> 'A&P','P','P!A',
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    'GCON',
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: SOLCON        0                    Gain constraint 
>>>>>>>>> factor.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: MINAMPER     10                    Amplitude closure 
>>>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    regarded as 
>>>>>>>>> excessive in %
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: MINPHSER     10                    Phase closure error 
>>>>>>>>> regarded
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                    as excessive in 
>>>>>>>>> degrees
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: CPARM         0           0        Phase-amp. parameters
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:               1           1           1 = Min el for gain
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:               1        *rest 0             
>>>>>>>>> normalization (deg)
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                       2 >0 => 
>>>>>>>>> normalize gain
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                       3 avg. amp. 
>>>>>>>>> closure err
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                       4 avg. ph. 
>>>>>>>>> closure err
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                       5 >0 => scalar 
>>>>>>>>> average
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                       6 limit clipping 
>>>>>>>>> in robust
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                       7 limit display 
>>>>>>>>> of closure
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                         errors
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: SNVER         0                    Output SN table, 
>>>>>>>>> 0=>new table
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: ANTWT      *all 0                  Ant. weights (0=>1.0)
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: ** press RETURN for more, enter Q or next line to quit 
>>>>>>>>> print **
>>>>>>>>> #
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: GAINERR    *all 0                  Std. Dev. of 
>>>>>>>>> antenna gains.
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1: BADDISK    *all 0                  Disk no. not to use 
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> AIPS 1:                                       scratch files.
>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/16/08 4:42 PM, Amy Mioduszewski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry.  Send me your CALIB inputs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Amy
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jeff Mangum wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> That is what I mean.  The models that CALRD finds.  It finds 
>>>>>>>>>>> the 3C286 model just fine.  When I tries to use it, though, 
>>>>>>>>>>> CALIB fails.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jeff
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/16/08 4:34 PM, Amy Mioduszewski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean by "built in models"?  If you want to use 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the flux calibrator models you have to load them with 
>>>>>>>>>>>> CALRD.  VLACALIB will load and use models automatically.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Amy
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff Mangum wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have U-band-only VLA observations taken this February 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I am trying to calibrate.  When I try to use CALIB 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with one of the built-in models for 3C286, the task simply 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dies without indicating what the problem might be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> localh> CALIB1: CALIB USING 20080223     . CH 0   .   1 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DISK=  1 USID= 277
>>>>>>>>>>>>> localh> CALIB1: Doing no flagging this time
>>>>>>>>>>>>> localh> CALIB1: Purports to die of UNNATURAL causes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried modifying several input parameters, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot get past this point.  I wonder if the fact that my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> data only has 14 antennas (only those with U-band 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> receivers) is causing problems?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Jeff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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