[daip] Problem with UVFIX

Eric Greisen egreisen at nrao.edu
Thu Nov 8 13:46:00 EST 2007


dbgob at brandeis.edu writes:

 > Showing ignorance, how would I know if it is VLBA like? The original  
 > file looks like VLA data and when I run PRTAN I get a VLA pattern like  
 > I normally would. Beyond this what should I look for?

     That is good enough - the BX, By, Bz are a few 1000's of m and so
are VLA not earth size.
 > 
 > This error is for more than this data source. I cam across another on  
 > the other day.

     UVFIX is run all the time and the problems you report do not
occur but UVFIX does not have enough parameters for you to make a
mistake either.

 > 
 > My new fun problem just now is also with the AN table from a  
 > observation on 8/13/83 where all antennas are out, but data was taken.  
 > Somehow I can manipulate this data pre UVFIX, and I can also find  
 > solutions using calib, but I cannot display the data after UVFIX using  
 > UVPLT. I get scale errors. UVFIX is somehow using the bad AN file  
 > information and corrupting the data with it. Thoughts?

       Are they out and show 0 for the coordinates?

I will try to locate these data from the archive and try UVFIX
myself.

Eric Greisen

 > 
 > ~Doug
 > 
 > 
 > > go prtan
 > PRTAN1: Task PRTAN  (release of 31DEC07) begins
 >   galaxy    PRTAN(31DEC07)   3666     08-NOV-2007  13:33:57    Page    1
 > File=19890123    .X BAND.   1     An.ver=   1     Vol= 1     User= 3666
 > Array= VLA          Freq=  8414.900000 MHz     Ref.date= 23-JAN-1989
 > 
 > Array reference position in meters (Earth centered)
 > Array BX=  -1601185.36500    BY=  -5041977.54700    BZ=   3554875.87000
 > Polar X =   0.00000 Polar Y =   0.00000 arcsec
 > Earth rotation rate =  360.9856449729 degrees / IAT day
 > GST at UT=0 =  122.3062868243 degrees
 > UT1-UTC=      0.0000000   Data time(IAT     )-UTC=      0.0000000 seconds
 > Solutions not yet determined for a particular FREQID
 > 
 > Ant   1 = VLA:_W48 BX=     3275.1448 BY=    -8682.4850 BZ=    -4854.8510
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0000 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant   2 = VLA:_N72 BX=   -10577.4709 BY=    -1651.4341 BZ=    15618.8268
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0000 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant   3 = VLA:_N24 BX=    -1660.4986 BY=     -259.4043 BZ=     2454.4275
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset= -0.0033 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant   4 = VLA:_W24 BX=     1005.4337 BY=    -2642.9971 BZ=    -1472.1934
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0078 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant   5 = VLA:_N8  BX=     -243.6082 BY=      -38.0379 BZ=      360.0547
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0000 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant   6 = VLA:_N48 BX=    -5271.3100 BY=     -823.5495 BZ=     7791.9733
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0000 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant   7 = VLA:_E72 BX=     4857.9207 BY=    19090.2761 BZ=    -7275.8913
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset= -0.0036 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > Type Q to stop, just hit RETURN to continue
 > 
 >   galaxy    PRTAN(31DEC07)   3666     08-NOV-2007  13:34:13    Page    2
 > File=19890123    .X BAND.   1     An.ver=   1     Vol= 1     User= 3666
 > Array= VLA          Freq=  8414.900000 MHz     Ref.date= 23-JAN-1989
 > 
 > Ant   8 = VLA:_N64 BX=    -8642.1437 BY=    -1349.2398 BZ=    12760.7074
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0084 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant   9 = VLA:_W8  BX=      152.7597 BY=     -401.2722 BZ=     -223.4035
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset= -0.0177 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant  10 = VLA:_W72 BX=     6536.2723 BY=   -17410.2207 BZ=    -9755.4677
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0000 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant  11 = VLA:_W64 BX=     5349.1512 BY=   -14224.3521 BZ=    -7964.4484
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0048 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant  12 = VLA:_W56 BX=     4258.9919 BY=   -11311.5142 BZ=    -6329.9779
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0000 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant  13 = VLA:_N16 BX=     -801.3991 BY=     -124.9723 BZ=     1182.1133
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0000 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant  14 = VLA:_E64 BX=     4083.2592 BY=    15550.4506 BZ=    -5990.5016
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0000 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant  15 = VLA:_N56 BX=    -6870.9392 BY=    -1072.9351 BZ=    10148.7516
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0000 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant  16 = VLA:_E48 BX=     2495.7756 BY=     9491.9086 BZ=    -3654.7132
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset= -0.0051 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > Type Q to stop, just hit RETURN to continue
 > 
 >   galaxy    PRTAN(31DEC07)   3666     08-NOV-2007  13:34:14    Page    3
 > File=19890123    .X BAND.   1     An.ver=   1     Vol= 1     User= 3666
 > Array= VLA          Freq=  8414.900000 MHz     Ref.date= 23-JAN-1989
 > 
 > Ant  17 = VLA:_N40 BX=    -3854.6932 BY=     -602.2908 BZ=     5698.9437
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0000 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant  18 = VLA:_E40 BX=     1836.9563 BY=     6942.0859 BZ=    -2665.2383
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0000 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant  19 = VLA:_W32 BX=     1640.0293 BY=    -4329.9432 BZ=    -2416.6959
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset= -0.0030 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant  20 = VLA:_E16 BX=      376.9970 BY=     1440.9959 BZ=     -556.1077
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0045 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant  21 = VLA:_W16 BX=      499.8340 BY=    -1317.9786 BZ=     -735.2063
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0000 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant  22 = VLA:_OUT BX=        0.0000 BY=        0.0000 BZ=        0.0000
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0000 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant  23 = VLA:_E8  BX=      114.4356 BY=      438.6875 BZ=     -169.4956
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0000 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant  24 = VLA:_E24 BX=      765.2135 BY=     2889.4444 BZ=    -1108.8953
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0000 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant  25 = VLA:_E32 BX=     1253.2479 BY=     4733.6234 BZ=    -1816.9223
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0000 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > Type Q to stop, just hit RETURN to continue
 > 
 >   galaxy    PRTAN(31DEC07)   3666     08-NOV-2007  13:34:14    Page    4
 > File=19890123    .X BAND.   1     An.ver=   1     Vol= 1     User= 3666
 > Array= VLA          Freq=  8414.900000 MHz     Ref.date= 23-JAN-1989
 > 
 > Ant  26 = VLA:_E56 BX=     3241.9561 BY=    12366.0629 BZ=    -4767.4608
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0000 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant  27 = VLA:_N32 BX=    -2629.1222 BY=     -410.6663 BZ=     3885.6152
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0000 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant  28 = VLA:_W40 BX=     2394.9629 BY=    -6350.0183 BZ=    -3550.9533
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0000 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > 
 > Ant  29 = VPT:_OUT BX=        0.0000 BY=        0.0000 BZ=        0.0000
 > Mount=ALAZ  Axis offset=  0.0000 meters    IFA               IFB
 > Feed polarization type =                    R                 L
 > Type Q to stop, just hit RETURN to continue
 > 
 >   galaxy    PRTAN(31DEC07)   3666     08-NOV-2007  13:34:15    Page    5
 > File=19890123    .X BAND.   1     An.ver=   1     Vol= 1     User= 3666
 > Array= VLA          Freq=  8414.900000 MHz     Ref.date= 23-JAN-1989
 > 
 >                        Location Of VLA Antennas
 > 
 >                                 N72 ( 2)
 >                                 N64 ( 8)
 >                                 N56 (15)
 >                                 N48 ( 6)
 >                                 N40 (17)
 >                                 N32 (27)
 >                                 N24 ( 3)
 >                                 N16 (13)
 >                                 N8  ( 5)
 >                             ( 9) W8   E8  (23)
 >                           (21) W16      E16 (20)
 >                         ( 4) W24          E24 (24)
 >                       (19) W32              E32 (25)
 >                     (28) W40                  E40 (18)
 >                   ( 1) W48                      E48 (16)
 >                 (12) W56                          E56 (26)
 >               (11) W64                              E64 (14)
 >             (10) W72                                  E72 ( 7)
 >                            VLA:_OUT (22)
 >                            VPT:_OUT (29)
 > PRTAN1: Appears to have ended successfully
 > PRTAN1: galaxy       31DEC07 TST: Cpu=       0.0  Real=      18
 > AIPS 1: Resumes
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > Quoting Eric Greisen <egreisen at nrao.edu>:
 > 
 > > dbgob at brandeis.edu writes:
 > >  > Hello,
 > >  >
 > >  > When running task UVFIX on a data set (Project AL0187 from 1/23/89) it
 > >  > seems to change the observation uv distances from VLA scales to VLBA
 > >  > scales! I have encountered this once before but thought it a fluke. It
 > >  > seems to be more than a one time thing. Any idea what is going wrong?
 > >  >
 > > UVFIX uses the frequency information in the header and the antenna
 > > information in the AN file.  If one of these is in error, then wrong
 > > results will arise.  Have you gotten a VLBA like AN file attached to a
 > > VLA data set?  Run PRTAN and see.
 > >
 > > The usual complaint about UVFIX is over fractions of a millimeter, not
 > > hundred of miles!
 > >
 > > Eric Greisen
 > >
 > 
 > 
 > 




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