[daip] Re: Re: debian

[Eric Greisen]

ketan desai writes:
 > [Hello Eric!  I hope things are going well out there.]
 > 
 > Pat, actually I take my previous email back.
 > 
 > 1) the installation seems to have gone quite smoothly.  I haven't run the
 > DDT yet.
 >     maybe sometime in the next decade ?  :)
 > 
 > 2) although, obviously instep2 and instep4 could be written in perl -
 > there's no real
 >     need to do so.   However - perl is available pretty much everywhere now
 > and
 >     writing this in perl might make some parts of it easier to read -
 > especially using
 >     here-files and redirection.  I was offering to do the work simply
 > because I thought
 >     maybe it hadn't been done due to lack of manpower.  No offence was
 > intended
 >     with this suggestion...  :)

     Re-writes are only for things that need to change.  They work
fine and we hope no one wants to read them.  They should not have to.

 > 
 > 3) saw that some time ago (a decade?) AIPS had a shared library installation
 > option.  What would it take to bring that back ?   My problem is mainly CPU
 > and memory and only to a lesser extent - diskspace.  I would like to use
 > shared libraries so I can build smaller binaries that I can load faster with
 > smaller memory footprints.  Also I am interested in modifying programs so I
 > figured link time would be smaller with shared libraries ?

     I forget what it takes for shared libraries - I assume the main
thing is some link editor options.  They could be put in LDOPTS.

 > 
 > 4) What is the DOTWOLIB option (I saw it in .AIPSRC) ?

      This 0-byte file tells it to make a LIBRDBG collection of
libraries on COMRPL so that one can do debug as well as optimize
versions of load modules.

 > 
 > 5) on starting aips:
 >     I don't want to edit my services file.
 >     I would just like to always start aips as 'aips tv=local' .
 >     Could we have that as an installation option ?
 >     I suppose something similar for tapes and tek and msgserv windows would
 > be nice too.

     tv=local already applies to tek and msg - you can live with a
tape error message if you never need TPMON (or add tpok on the command
line).

 > 
 > 6) a few comments on the install:
 >     Since I had a new installation, I was perfectly willing to accept the
 >     defaults on many of the questions.
 >     Since install.pl has a restart capability (which says to me that its
 > very close...)
 >     Could install.pl - on a **new install** - offer to first try to find
 > reasonable defaults for all
 >     answers and fall back to the usual method if something fails.

       Actually install.pl does fairly well finding sensible defaults
for most things when the .AIPSRC file does not specify them.  Is there
something else that could be defaulted that wasn't?

Eric Greisen


 > 
 > I'm not holding my breath on any of these.  I know how shorthanded you guys
 > are.
 > If you don't mind my making these suggestions - theres more where they came
 > from... :)
 > [and if you are up for it - id be willing to try to propose revisions -
 > instead of just sniping
 > from the sidelines. of course this is all as time permits over here...]
 > 
 > keep in touch,
 > -K
 > 
 > 
 > On 1/19/06, ketan desai <ketanmd at gmail.com> wrote:
 > >
 > > So I started installing aips tonight.
 > > your advice to stick to gcc-3.4 and f77-3.4 seems to be working
 > > fwiw other packages I needed were
 > > libncurses5-dev
 > > xlibs-dev
 > >
 > > I'm installing on a Ubuntu 5.10 system.
 > >
 > > I was wondering - why are INSTEP2 and INSTEP4 still written as shell
 > > scripts ?
 > > What would you say to my proposing a perl version of them?
 > > If you approve or are at least are interested in the idea
 > > I could find the time to whip out something in a week or two.
 > >
 > > Let me know.
 > > -K
 > > [after reading something about obit and parseltongue - I'm tempted to
 > > learn python.
 > >   i could propose a python version if you like - though that would take me
 > > longer...]
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > [Hello Eric!  I hope things are going well out there.]<br>
 > <br>
 > Pat, actually I take my previous email back.<br>
 > <br>
 > 1) the installation seems to have gone quite smoothly.  I haven't run the DDT yet.<br>
 >     maybe sometime in the next decade ?  :)<br>
 > <br>
 > 2) although, obviously instep2 and instep4 could be written in perl - there's no real<br>
 >     need to do so.   However - perl is available pretty much everywhere now and <br>
 >     writing this in perl might make some parts of it easier to read - especially using<br>
 >     here-files and redirection.  I was offering to do the work simply because I thought<br>
 >     maybe it hadn't been done due to lack of manpower.  No offence was intended<br>
 >     with this suggestion...  :)<br>
 > <br>
 > 3) saw that some time ago (a decade?) AIPS had a shared library installation<br>
 > option.  What would it take to bring that back ?   My
 > problem is mainly CPU and memory and only to a lesser extent -
 > diskspace.  I would like to use shared libraries so I can build
 > smaller binaries that I can load faster with smaller memory
 > footprints.  Also I am interested in modifying programs so I
 > figured link time would be smaller with shared libraries ?<br>
 > 
 > <br>
 > 4) What is the DOTWOLIB option (I saw it in .AIPSRC) ?<br>
 > <br>
 > 5) on starting aips:<br>
 >     I don't want to edit my services file.<br>
 >     I would just like to always start aips as 'aips tv=local' .<br>
 >     Could we have that as an installation option ?<br>
 >     I suppose something similar for tapes and tek and msgserv windows would be nice too.<br>
 > <br>
 > 6) a few comments on the install:<br>
 >     Since I had a new installation, I was perfectly willing to accept the <br>
 >     defaults on many of the questions.<br>
 >     Since install.pl has a restart capability (which says to me that its very close...)<br>
 >     Could install.pl - on a **new install** - offer to first try to find reasonable defaults for all<br>
 >     answers and fall back to the usual method if something fails.<br>
 > <br>
 > I'm not holding my breath on any of these.  I know how shorthanded you guys are.<br>
 > If you don't mind my making these suggestions - theres more where they came from... :)<br>
 > [and if you are up for it - id be willing to try to propose revisions - instead of just sniping <br>
 > from the sidelines. of course this is all as time permits over here...]<br>
 > <br>
 > keep in touch,<br>
 > -K<br>
 > <br>
 >  <br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 1/19/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">ketan desai</b> <<a href="mailto:ketanmd at gmail.com">ketanmd at gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
 > So I started installing aips tonight.<br>
 > your advice to stick to gcc-3.4 and f77-3.4 seems to be working<br>
 > fwiw other packages I needed were<br>
 > libncurses5-dev<br>
 > xlibs-dev<br>
 > <br>
 > I'm installing on a Ubuntu 5.10 system.<br>
 > <br>
 > I was wondering - why are INSTEP2 and INSTEP4 still written as shell scripts ?<br>
 > What would you say to my proposing a perl version of them?<br>
 > If you approve or are at least are interested in the idea<br>
 > I could find the time to whip out something in a week or two.<br><br>
 > Let me know.<br>
 > -K<br>
 > [after reading something about obit and parseltongue - I'm tempted to learn python.<br>
 >   i could propose a python version if you like - though that would take me longer...]<div><span class="e" id="q_108e5fd32841028d_1"><br><br><br><br>
 > 
 > </span></div></blockquote></div><br>