[alma-config]Re: coordinates

John Conway jconway at oso.chalmers.se
Fri Nov 30 14:26:13 EST 2001



Hi,

 Below I include 183 pad positions within 4km.
-Simon, if  please acknowledge receipt.

I agree with Angel that having the positions 
of all the pads from the different strawmen marked
on a maps - would be  really useful - my experience from
April was that you need every aid to work 
efficiently at that altitude.  I'm making 
my own maps of my configuration but it 
would be good to have a 'master map' with 
all pads on. So Angel, could
you add my coordinates to Villanueva 
to put on the maps

Having at least temporary stakes (with some
kind of flag on top?) would be useful. Even 
though we are not staking out final or 
even near final positions- it will helps to 
navigate around the site (also maybe someone could 
bring some low power binoculars - again it 
sounds like overkill - but anything you van have 
to help you find your way back to the array
centre and the stakes/flags there and elsewhere 
the better).

I think it will be good discipline to visit these
defined pad locations - we can then 
get some statistical information about how 
many pads chosen on the basis of the mask, and
how this varies with different ares over the site,
- and also how far is the nearest 'best'
place. Hopefully during this trip we can develop the 
methodology we need to iterate on the final design once 
the conceptual design is finalised at 
the CDR in  January.

My pad design includes a large outer 4km Reuleux
triangle, with a zoom array inside-I'm not 
wedded completely to this. The basic idea is that 
with a 4km periphery populated array the gap
in resolution to 14km is just over 3 (which 
from VLA experience we know we can live with),
plus there are some Y shaped hybrids going
from 4km to 14km - with useful if
not elegant uv coverage. Adrians concept 
with two rings around Chascon and gradual 
zooming is more elegant - I could adapt my design
to that by extending two of the spiral arms.
The only questions is which is harder terrain
wise - a 4km triangle or Adrians cocept -this 
for me is one of the questions I would like to 
answer during this trip.


  John
 

 
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