[Pafgbt] save PAF cross-correlations rather than formed beam outputs
Scott Ransom
sransom at nrao.edu
Mon May 20 15:34:25 EDT 2013
For L-band pulsar searches, you would want channels which are a fraction
of a MHz wide. Say, 0.25-0.5 MHz at the most.
Scott
On 05/20/2013 03:28 PM, Rick Fisher wrote:
> Brian,
>
> Quite right. You'd need to anticipate the spectral resolution needed
> for any possble application of the data and provide the data
> storage/bandwidth that goes with it. We should see what's typical for
> pulsar searches.
>
> Rick
>
> On Mon, 20 May 2013, Brian Jeffs wrote:
>
>> Rick,
>> I agree that you have much more flexibility to try different beamformer
>> designs, detection algorithms, interference mitigation techniques,
>> superresolution, calibration correction, etc. if you store and operate on
>> the accumulated cross products (correlation matrices). However, you
>> give up
>> the ability to do fine resolution spectral processing. You are stuck
>> with
>> the coarseness of the correlator's frequency channelization. I don't
>> know
>> how problematic this is for some applications, such as pulsar searches,
>> where fine spectral resolution may be needed.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> On May 20, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Anish Roshi wrote:
>>
>>
>> Yes indeed. We can form images with beams with different optimization
>> if the correlations are recorded.
>> Anish
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Rick Fisher <rfisher at nrao.edu> wrote:
>> Brian, Karl,
>>
>> In trying to understand the ASKAP data processing
>> architecture, I'm
>> beginning to understand the fundamental importance of
>> saving the
>> cross-products between array element outputs in our own
>> PAF data
>> processing. In forming beams you throw away a lot of
>> information in the
>> array's field of view that can be recovered only by
>> forming many beams
>> with very close spacing (much closer than HPBW/2). This
>> has important
>> consequences for the sensitivity to point sources, as in
>> the search for
>> pulsars. Hence, I would suggest that the most important
>> archived outputs
>> from your signal processor are the cross-products rather
>> than formed
>> beams. For a given data storage volume, there's more
>> information in the
>> cross-products than in the formed beam outputs. In some
>> respects, the
>> "beam" concept is a holdover from a waveguide feed where
>> there's only one
>> output, and most of the information in the focal plane is
>> reflected back
>> into the sky.
>>
>> Rick
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