[Pafgbt] GBT PAF system assumptions

Rick Fisher rfisher at nrao.edu
Fri Feb 12 11:01:01 EST 2010


Paul,

This is very helpful.  I'll watch for other comments, but it appears that 
we're not totally out in left field.  The one-shot aspect of this doesn't 
bother me too much.  It's a pretty big project.

Rick

On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Paul Demorest wrote:

> Rick,
>
> Just ran a few rough numbers, and it turns out a 1400 MHz PAF pulsar survery 
> is actually pretty comparable to the 350 MHz GBT (single-beam) survey 
> currently being run by Scott and co.  The FoV are almost identical. Due to 
> lower sky and rcvr temps, the PAF has better SEFD by a factor of 
> ~ 2-20 (direction dependent), and would have ~2x the BW.  This is mostly 
> offset by pulsars being typically about 10x fainter at 1400 vs 350 MHz. But 
> the PAF definitely wins in the galactic plane.  The PAF survey would also be 
> sensitive to MSPs out to much higher DM.
>
> So the main motivation for a L-band PAF psr survey would be to find pulsars 
> (especially higher-DM MSPs) in the galactic plane.  We'll need to compare 
> these parameters to past/current work at Parkes to see how much telescope 
> time would be needed to beat what has already been done.
>
> Another possible consideration is that this is basically a one-shot project.. 
> it's a pretty large project, but still, once the deep galactic plane survey 
> is done, I don't think there is much other use for the feed pulsar-wise.
>
> -Paul
>
> Field of view
>   350: (36')^2 * 1 beam  = 1300 arcmin^2
>   PAF: (9')^2 * 19 beams = 1500 arcmin^2
>
> T_rcvr
>   350: 50 K
>   PAF: 28 K
>
> T_sky
>   350: 0 to ~1000 K
>   PAF: 0 to ~10 K
>   Direction dependent, highest in gal. plane
>
> Pulsar flux
>   S_350 / S_1400 = (350/1400)^-1.7 ~ 10
>
> BW
>   350: 100 MHz
>   PAF: 250 MHZ (?)
>
> Max. DM for MSPs
>   350: ~50-100 (~0.5 ms smearing at DM=100)
>   PAF: ~500-1000 (dependent on Nchan)
>
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Rick Fisher wrote:
>
>>  Paul,
>>
>>  Could someone do an analysis for the optimum pulsar frequency for an array
>>  feed?  In the meantime, is it possible to say whether there is strong
>>  interest in a PAF on the GBT for pulsar work near 1400 MHz?  I've been
>>  assuming there is, but the original science case is nearly 10 years old.
>>
>>  Rick
>>
>>  On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, Paul Demorest wrote:
>> 
>> >  On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, Rick Fisher wrote:
>> > 
>> > >   To begin getting a handle on the constraints and options for a GBT 
>> > >   PAF
>> > >   system design, let me list some assumptions that we might adopt. 
>> > >   Feel
>> > >   free to argue with any of these and suggest alternatives.  The 
>> > >   immediate
>> > >   objective is to get the options on the table.
>> > > 
>> > >   Rick
>> > > 
>> > >   1. Because data rate, storage, and management will always be primary
>> > >   limiting factors in PAF science output, system temperature and 
>> > >   aperture
>> > >   and beam efficiency of each beam will be top priorities.  The goal 
>> > >   for
>> > >   system temperature divided by aperture efficiency is 28 K for all 
>> > >   beams
>> > >   that are formed and processed.  The first array on the GBT may not 
>> > >   meet
>> > >   this goal, but front-end development will continue at least until 
>> > >   this
>> > >   goal is achieved.  The first array on the GBT will be cryogenic.
>> > > 
>> > >   2. The first array on the GBT will be have 19 dual-polarized 
>> > >   elements.
>> > >   It will be optimized for the HI line at 1.42 GHz and cover at least
>> > >   1.3-1.5 GHz.  This frequency range is bounded by the radar at 1.292
>> > >   GHz and the satellite band at 1.52-1.57 GHz.  Another array will need
>> > >   to be built to cover the 1.7-2.3 GHz band preferred by pulsar
>> > >   observers when sufficient beamforming bandwidth becomes available.
>> > 
>> >  1.7-2.3 GHz might not be the best pulsar band for this feed.  I think it
>> >  mainly became the standard for the GBT because the (3-level) spigot was 
>> >  so
>> >  sensitive to RFI at the lower L-band freqs.  With higher dynamic range
>> >  instruments it might make sense to move down in freq where pulsars are
>> >  stronger and survey speed goes up.  someone will have to do a real 
>> >  analysis
>> >  of all these factors though...
>> > 
>> >  -Paul
>> > 
>> > > 
>> > >   3. Ultimately we want to digitize the signal from each array element
>> > >   in the front-end box for greatest phase and amplitude stability and
>> > >   lower cable weight of optical fibers.  However, the first array will
>> > >   use 38 coaxial cables to carry the element signals into the GBT
>> > >   receiver room.  These cables should have sufficiently low loss and
>> > >   outer shield leakage to carry signals frequencies up to 2.3 GHz so
>> > >   that they can transfer either IF or RF signals to the receiver room.
>> > > 
>> > >   4. A phase and amplitude monitor signal will be distributed in the
>> > >   front-end box and injected into the signal path of each element after
>> > >   the cryogenic LNA.  (A signal transmitted to the array from an 
>> > >   antenna
>> > >   somewhere in the dish is subject to multi-path distortions that make
>> > >   it an unreliable primary calibrator, at least until its reliability
>> > >   can be validated against the directly injected calibrator. 
>> > >   Calibrator
>> > >   injection immediately ahead of the LNA would degrade noise
>> > >   performance.  Experience with single-beam GBT receivers indicates 
>> > >   that
>> > >   the LNAs are stable enough to be left outside of the phase and
>> > >   amplitude monitor loop.)
>> > > 
>> > >   5. The long-range plans are to locate the beamformer electronics in
>> > >   the Jansky laboratory.  This offers the greatest room for growth and
>> > >   minimizes the problems of space, weight, and EMI in the GBT receiver
>> > >   room.  However, the first beamformer with modest bandwidth will be
>> > >   located in the GBT receiver room so that its implementation is not
>> > >   dependent on transmitting its input signals to the Jansky lab.  [Can
>> > >   fewer ROACH boards accommodate 38 lower speed ADCs?]
>> > > 
>> > >   6. A 250-MHz bandwidth beamformer that uses 20 ROACH boards and 20 
>> > >   iADC
>> > >   boards plus ethernet switch and associated electronics and power
>> > >   supplies is too big and noisy for the GBT receiver room.  This should
>> > >   be planned for installation in the Jansky lab.
>> > > 
>> > >   7. We'll vigorously develop digitizers and digital fiber links that
>> > >   allow signals from the array elements to be transmitted to the Jansky
>> > >   lab on digital fiber links, but we don't want this to be on the 
>> > >   critical
>> > >   path to implementing a wider bandwidth beamformer.  An alternative
>> > >   solution will be to install commercial 0.9-2.2 GHz analog fiber 
>> > >   modems
>> > >   to transmit RF signals directly to the lab.  The feasibility of such 
>> > >   a
>> > >   solution depends on it being stable enough to be tracked with the
>> > >   phase and amplitude monitoring system.  Two modem pairs are in hand,
>> > >   and tests of them on fibers between the GBT and the lab will begin
>> > >   soon.  Each modem pair costs about $2K, and a set to handle 38 signal
>> > >   paths will cost about $80K so we need to be certain that it will 
>> > >   offer
>> > >   significant scientific pay-off before taking this option.  Note that
>> > >   the modems in hand do not work below 900 MHz so they would not 
>> > >   transmit
>> > >   low-frequency IF signals from the BYU receiver modules currently 
>> > >   under
>> > >   construction.  Analog modems that work at lower frequencies are
>> > >   available, but they may be more expensive.
>> > > 
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