[Pafgbt] PAF beamformer size and cost
Rick Fisher
rfisher at nrao.edu
Thu Feb 4 10:24:44 EST 2010
Brian,
Is your assumed beamformer architecture voltage sums or post-correlation?
In other words, are the beams formed by summing complex weighted voltages
from the array elements or by combining cross products of all of the
elements? John's reference at http://arxiv.org/abs/0912.0380v1 shows a
voltage-sum beamformer. The post-correlaion bamformer may use fewer
processing resources, but it precludes further coherent signal processing
of each beam.
Very roughly, the science requirements for a beamformer fall into two
camps, which may be operational definitions of first science and
cadallac/dream machine: 1. spectral line surveys with bandwidths in the
3-100 MHz range and very modest time resolution and 2. pulsar and fast
transient source surveys with bandwidths on the order of 500+ MHz and <=50
microsecond time resolution. The 2001 science case says pulsar work
requires bandwidths of 200+ MHz, but the bar has gone higher in the
meantime. One can always think of something to do with a wide bandwidth,
low time resolution beamformer, but it would be a stretch. The GBT
sensitivity isn't high enough to see HI at redshifts below, say, 1350 MHz
in a very wide-area survey. Hence, building a beamformer with wide
bandwith but low time resolution may not be the optimum use of resources.
Also, the 2001 science cases assumes 7 formed beams, but the minimum now
would be, maybe, 19 and growing as the competition heats up.
Counter-thoughts?
Rick
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Brian Jeffs wrote:
> Rick,
>
> We have a rough architecture and cost estimate for a 40 channel
> correlator/beamformer capable of 40 channels (19 dual pol antennas plus
> reference or RFI auxiliary) over 250 MHz BW. We worked this out with CASOER
> head Dan Werthimer and his crack correlator/beamformer developer Jason
> Manley. It will require 20 ROACH boards, 20 iADC boards, 1 20-port 10 Gbit
> ethernet switch, and some lesser associated parts.
>
> Our recent ROACH order was $2750 each, iADC: $1300 each, enclosures: $750
> each, XiLinx chip: free or $3000, ethernet switch: $12000.
>
> You can use your existing data acquisition array of PCs as the stream-to-disk
> farm, but will need to buy 10 Gbit cards and hardware RAID controllers.
>
> The total (which will be a bit low) assuming no free XiLinx parts and not
> including is: $168,000.
>
> Of course this does not include development manpower costs.
>
> Brian
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Rick Fisher wrote:
>
>> This is an incomplete question, but maybe we can beat it into something
>> answerable: Do we know enough about existing applications on CASPER
>> hardware to make a conservative estimate of what it would cost to build a
>> PAF beamformer with a given set of specs? I'm looking for at least two
>> estimates. What is a realistic set of specs for the first science PAF
>> beamformer, and what would the dream machine that would make a big
>> scientific impact cost? You're welcome to define the specs that go with
>> either of these two questions or I'll start defining them by thinking "out
>> loud". The first science beamformer will guide the initial system design,
>> and the dream machine will help get a handle on longer range expectations.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Rick
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Pafgbt mailing list
>> Pafgbt at listmgr.cv.nrao.edu
>> http://listmgr.cv.nrao.edu/mailman/listinfo/pafgbt
>
More information about the Pafgbt
mailing list