[mmaimcal] Re: [alma-sw-ssr] question about frequency/band switching speeds and rates
R. Lucas
lucas at iram.fr
Fri Feb 4 12:12:58 EST 2005
Darrel:
This is what we have in the OTF interferometry use case:
""2. The scheme currenly envisioned for phase tracking is the following
(D. Emerson):
- We apply, on one of the LO's, the phase and fringe frequency needed to
track the center of the antenna beam (taken at the center of the
integration period),
- an additional phase, constant during the integration, as needed to
obtain a continuous phase at the beginning of the integration.
- this phase value is kept and later subtracted from that of
visibilities obtained during that integration. This scheme should not
unneededly restrain the final data rate.""
I think this resulted of a discussion with Larry and yourself at the
time. We always phase-track a fixed position in the sky, corresponding
to the center of the primary beam at mid-integration, but make sure
there is no phase jump at the end of each integration.
Cheers
Robert
Darrel Emerson wrote:
> I believe Robert Lucas is working on the details, but I don't think
> we want to track the phase centers as such as they move across
> the sky with the primary beam in OTF interferometry.
> If you do that, you end up with artificially high fringe rates that
> are too high to sample - Larry pointed this out. However, if
> you keep the phase center more or less fixed, but track the fringe
> frequency rather than its absolute phase, that's a more slowly
> changing quantity across the sky, & it becomes manageable.
> Of course you do need to track the delay center with the primary
> beam, but not necessarily the phase center.
>
> There was some discussion on this issue a couple of years back.
I think that was rather a couple of couples of years back.
>
> Cheers,
> Darrel.
>
> Bryan Butler wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 2/3/05 22:45, Bryan Butler wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> . OTF mosaic cell phase-center saltation: rate=100 usec; speed=10
>>> usec.
>>> [for the rate, i've assumed slewing at 1 deg/sec, and 950 GHz,
>>> with 2 samples per FWHM; speed is a guess - it will depend on
>>> how fast the correlator can reset delays]
>>
>>
>>
>> OK - got this one totally wrong. slew rate for OTF interferometry is
>> 3'/sec, not 1d/sec, which corresponds to 15 msec required
>> reconfiguration speed if the phase centers are changed discretely as
>> the antennas slew across the source... but it's not clear this can be
>> accomplished if the correlator phase center can only be updated on 48
>> msec boundaries?
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