[mmaimcal] comments on Al's revised rx specs (and some Stephanes comments)
Steven T. Myers
smyers at nrao.edu
Thu Jun 15 10:57:47 EDT 2000
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> 3.2 Polarization
> The ASAC report at
> http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~awootten/mmaimcal/asacreport/node12.html
> needs to be made more specific. Steve Myers has put work into this, and
> his draft recommendations are located at:
> http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~smyers/alma/polspecs-imcal.txt
> We invite comments on this document.
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These specs are essentially those proposed by Larry, with goals and
spec separated. Please do look these over and make sure I got things
straight...
> 3.4 Receiver noise performance.
> I think that this should be more specific. Stephane proposed:
> '1) Receiver noise temperature should not exceed (NUMBERS GIVEN FOR Freq.
> below 370 GHz) for Single Side Band receivers, 6 h.nu/k averaged over the
> best 80 % of its nominal bandwidth, and 10 h.nu/k at any place in the
> nominal bandwidth for Double Side Band receivers, these numbers
> should be halved
> ...
> What about sub-mm frequencies. Would 10 h.nu/k be acceptable, conservative
> or too difficult ?'
> I agree. In our memo on sensitivity goals, Bryan and I used an equation:
> TrxSSB= A * (hnu/k) + 4 K
> And for current technology, based on the review at the URSI 99 meeting:
> with A = 3 below 500 GHz
> A = 6 for band 9 (602-720 GHz)
> A = 12 for band 10 (787-950 GHz)
>
> We suggested goals for these future receivers of:
> A = 3 below 500 GHz
> A = 4 for band 9 (602-720 GHz)
> A = 8 for band 10 (787-950 GHz)
>
> I believe that there should be specifications and goals, with achieved receiver
> performance to fall between the two. I think Stephane's proposals are
> acceptable for specifications, though I feel fairly confident that better
> results may be achieved.
How about:
SSB hv/k inner / max
Band 1-6 (below 275 GHz) Spec: A = 6 / 10 Goal: A = 3 / 5
Band 7-8 (275-500 GHz) Spec: A = 8 / 12 Goal: A = 4 / 8
Band 9 (602-720 GHz) Spec: A = 10 / 15 Goal: A = 6 / 9
Band 10 (787-950 GHz) Spec: A = 10 / 15 Goal: A = 8 / 12
I split off bands 7-8 as I think there are still some difficulties doing
this compared with the lower mm bands.
I like the idea of having the tougher specs in some inner part of the band
(Stephane's 80% seems reasonable) - I figure we can live with 50%
degradation on the outer bits. I worry that pushing the 8 GHz bandwidth
will be hard enough as is - should we relax the A values a factore of
two in those outer 20% even? Im happy with x1.5 there...
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> Sidebands, IF bandwidths and Simultaneous operation of bands
>
> This seems too unspecific to me. The Munich PDR
> (http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~awootten/mmaimcal/ALMA-DesRevRec4.html) said:
> In addition to the baseline IF bands of 8 GHz Upper and Lower Sideband,
> receiver designers are free to select any of the following
> alternatives: 8 GHz Single-Side-Band, Upper or Lower, 8 GHz
> Double-Side-Band or 4 GHz Upper and Lower Sideband. In all cases, dual
> polarization for a total of 16 GHz IF band width. Sideband separation
> in DSB-mode will be possible for integration times in multiples of 1 sec.
> Depending on the choice, and maintaining the currently proposed LO
> coverage, this might lead to some loss of frequency coverage. The impact of this
> should be evaluated by the Science Group.
>
It seems you are suggesting the following:
SSB 1 x SB 2 x Pol = 2 x 8 GHz ( sideband rejecting )
SSB 2 x SB 2 x Pol = 4 x 4 GHz ( sideband separating )
DSB 2 x Pol = 2 x 8 GHz
Do we allow?
SSB 2 x SB 1 x Pol = 2 x 8 GHz
Is sideband or polarization separation easier at the higest bands?
Also, we should state our goal explicitly:
SSB 2 x SB 2 x Pol = 4 x 8 GHz ( sideband separating )
which is what the IF system is designed for!
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Looks like we are on the right track...
-steve
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