[evlatests] how often do we observe in narrow bandwidths?
Michael Rupen
mrupen at nrao.edu
Thu Dec 20 10:17:53 EST 2007
Hello all,
a couple comments on Bryan's numbers, and his conclusions.
* The July 1 cutoff for discussing recent observations is a rather odd
one.
- This corresponds to sometime in A configuration. The distribution of
projects (esp. line vs. continuum) varies enormously with the array
configuration, since surface brightness sensitivity prohibits
most emission line work in the larger configurations, and emission line
projects are much more time consuming in general than absorption work.
Bryan's July 1 cutoff will likely show many more continuum observations
than an average over all configurations. In this context I'm surprised
that we don't see a substantially *smaller* fraction of observing hours
in the narrow-band modes.
- The two large proposals affected by aliasing are those of Ott and
Hunter. Both projects center on HI in dwarf galaxies, and use the 0.78
and 1.56 MHz bandwidths exclusively. Ott's observations began in late
November (BnA); those of Hunter began on Dec. 19th. The fraction of
observing hours devoted to those projects will become even higher as
B configuration continues, with the bulk of Hunter's observations at
least scheduled for January.
* Comparing fractions of *total* observing hours mostly reveals the
distinction between continuum and line observations, and shows that
most VLA observations -- esp. in the A and B configs. -- are continuum
ones.
- BWcodes 0 and 1 (50 and 25 MHz) are primarily continuum experiments.
2003-now:
> BWcode all observing science observing
> 0 787.5 (62.4%) 433.3 (50.9%)
> 1 138.4 (11.0%) 122.7 (14.4%)
July 1-now:
> BWcode all observing science observing
> 0 90.6 (58.2%) 41.5 (42.3%)
> 1 30.9 (19.9%) 27.4 (27.9%)
The increase in BWcode 1 corresponds to the use of pseudo-continuum line
mode to take care of BW smearing in the A & B configurations.
These continuum observations account for about 65% of all observations,
and about 70% of the recent ones.
- Taking BWC 3 and up (6.25 MHz and narrower) as line experiments, I've
added columns corresponding to the fraction of line data taken in the
narrower BWCs. The tables are then as follows:
2003-now:
> BWcode all observing science observing % of line expt
> 3 68.4 (5.4%) 59.5 (7.0%) 21.4%
> 4 101.7 (8.1%) 91.5 (10.7%) 32.9%
> 5 99.0 (7.8%) 95.2 (11.2%) 34.2%
> 6 29.3 (2.3%) 28.0 (3.3%) 10.1%
> 7 0.1 (0.0%) 0.1 (0.0%) 0.0%
> 8 0.8 (0.1%) 0.5 (0.1%) 0.2%
> 9 4.0 (0.3%) 3.2 (0.4%) 1.2%
July 1-now:
> BWcode all observing science observing % of line expt
> 3 7.9 (5.1%) 6.6 (6.7%) 23.6%
> 4 2.7 (1.7%) 1.7 (1.7%) 6.1%
> 5 11.6 (7.5%) 11.1 (11.3%) 39.6%
> 6 8.8 (5.6%) 8.4 (8.6%) 30.0%
> 7 0.0 (0.0%) 0.0 (0.0%) 0.0%
> 8 0.0 (0.0%) 0.0 (0.0%) 0.0%
> 9 0.3 (0.2%) 0.2 (0.2%) 0.7%
I read this as a major increase in the fraction of time spent at BWC 6
(0.78 MHz), at the expense of BWC 4 (3.125 MHz). BWC 5 (1.56 MHz)
also increases somewhat.
* Conclusions
Bryan's conclusion was as follows:
> so, the question is, do we want to go to much effort, including a
> potential many-months-long delay in EVLA, to make a change to fix
> something that might affect something like 10%-20% of observing in the
> transition system (i'm counting modes 5 and above here)? i leave it to
> those more erudite than i to decide.
I have several issues with this.
1- The "potential many-months-delay" seems more a boogeyman than a
reality.
* I have not seen the cost analysis of this, and my impression
from speaking with Bob and Mark yesterday is that such an analysis has
not been done yet. There are several possible avenues being explored,
from hardware to software; some of these would likely be rather easy
to implement (cf. Eric's ridiculously rapid modification of UVLSF).
I presume this very long delay estimate comes from Mike Revnell's
early off-the-cuff guess as to the time required for a hardware fix.
He had revised that downwards by an order of magnitude when last we
spoke.
* Clearly we cannot tolerate a huge delay in the EVLA, and that is
being factored into the discussions of possible approaches.
Significant delays in EVLA developments are NOT on the table.
* The nature and severity of the problem are still being analyzed. It seems
early to panic about a fix, when we don't have a clear understanding
of the impact of the problem on scientific observations. Taking the
worst case, which has NOT been demonstrated, we might decide that the
problem isn't fixable in post-processing. [Note that the primary
responsibility for gathering the data leading to that decision has
been given to the *observers*, not NRAO staff.] One -- extreme! --
approach would simply be to allocate more observing time to make up
for the increase in the noise. This would have a major impact on the
array configuration schedule, for instance, but not on the EVLA
project. I do not advocate this, but even this worst case need not
lead to an EVLA meltdown.
This is a serious problem, and we should take it seriously. We cannot
allow a transition issue to dominate our thinking; but neither should we
stop thinking, on the off chance that all possible approaches might lead
to significant delays in other projects.
2- It's not obvious that the major impact of even the most pessimistic
version of a fix would be on the EVLA. Mike for instance is primarily
involved in VLBA developments at the moment. Those developments are
of course also very important -- the point is that we should not focus
exclusively on the EVLA when considering what to do about the aliasing
problem.
3- Counting the impact purely in overall observing hours is rather naive.
* The extreme of this approach would be to say the transition system
is purely a continuum instrument: spectral line observations are not
allowed. That might be a fine policy, but it is not the current
one.
* We have made a special commitment to the Large Proposals, to the
extent of (for instance) changing the array configuration schedule.
Those proposals have been subjected to much more extensive scientific
and technical reviews. Further, the PIs have committed to spending
much of their time over the next several years on these projects,
have gotten NSF and other grants to support them, and have hired
graduate students and postdocs with those moneys. We have a duty to
at least try to mitigate major, unanticipated, unadvertised
instrumental problems which have a major impact on these Large
Proposals.
Cheers,
Michael
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