[daip] CLCOR vs IMAGR for shifts
Mark Reid
reid at cfa.harvard.edu
Mon Feb 15 09:35:28 EST 2010
Eric Greisen wrote:
> Mark Reid wrote:
>> Eric and Craig,
>>
>> I was working on some VLA A-config 43 GHz data (AR678:maser stars
>> near Sgr A*) and seem to have a problem shifting with CLCOR again.
>> Here are the particulars:
>>
>> I'm using 31Dec10 AIPS.
>> The data has 2 polarizations (RCP & LCP)
>>
>> We pointed at Sgr A* and used it to (self)calibrate the data.
>> Then we image with several boxes, one on SgrA* at the origin and the
>> others shifted (IMAGR: RASH,DECSH) by ~10 arcsec to the positions of
>> masing stars. This has worked well both now and in the past.
>>
>> As a test, I tried shifting with CLCOR (ANTC: CLCORPRM(5),(6)) and
>> then imaging with IMAGR. This caused problems:
>>
>> 1) when I shifted a large amount (30" mostly in Dec) in CLCOR and then
>> by -30 arcsec in IMAGR, the image of Sgr A* was highly distorted.
>> Actually, the image resembled the VLA in shape!
>>
>> 2) when I shifted a modest amount (5.6" mostly in Dec) in CLCOR and
>> then by -5.6 arcsec in IMAGR, the image of Sgr A* was fine. HOWEVER,
>> there was a residual offset of about 10 mas in each axis. This is
>> about 1 part in 500 of the shift...pretty large.
>>
>> I would think this could be simulated with almost any VLA-A data set
>> that has a source with good SNR.
>>
>> Any ideas what is going on?
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> PS: the reason I was doing this test is that I'm worried that by
>> shifting in IMAGR (which I believe does only pure geometry changes),
>> that I will need to correct for differential precession, aberration,
>> refraction, etc. I believe that CLCOR does the full calculation and
>> thus would show me the "truth" (if it worked). Does this sound right
>> to you?
>
> You give CLCOR way too much credit!!! IMAGR and CLCOR do only pure
> geometric shifts. IMAGR does correct u,v,w for shifted facets. Doing a
> shift with CLCOR will change the recorded source position - but it does
> not recompute u,v,w in any way. IMAGR assumes that the u,v,w recorded
> with the data are correct - which with a shifted source would not be
> true. UVFIX is the only task in aips that considers differential
> precession, etc etc
>
> 30 arc sec seems pretty small for getting serious sky curvature
> problems. But at such southern declinations W errors are very serious.
>
> Eric Greisen
Eric,
That's good to know...indeed I thought CLCOR did more.
I'll try UVFIX.
Anyway, it appears that CLCOR is still broken.
Mark
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