[evlatests] Update on Strange R-L phase behavior
Sanjay Bhatnagar
sbhatnag at nrao.edu
Wed Mar 30 13:04:24 EDT 2022
I have been thinking about this issue from geometric/optics point of
view, and was waiting for the investigations for the source being in the
electronics/temp. variations etc. to settle down.
"over the top" tests would be quite useful, I agree. From what I can
make out, none of the on-sky tests so far included correction for
antenna pointing offsets. If so, I suggest that in the next set of
tests we include pointing correction.
With antenna pointing offsets, which can be significant, celestial
sources trace a curve about the nominal optical axis. Such a trace (by
hand -- so not accurate but good enough) on antenna R- and L-voltage
patterns from holographic measurements show a R-L phase difference of
2-3 deg. which is in the ball-park of Rick's measurement. Examination
of the Rick's plot with and without correcting for pointing offsets will
help determine if intrinsic R-L phase in the antenna aperture
illumination pattern could be contributing (partly or entirely) to
Rick's R-L phase plots.
Regards,
sanjay
On 3/30/22 10:26 AM, Rick Perley via evlatests wrote:
>
>
> Barry has opined for an antenna-based problem (something within the
> electronics which is strongly elevation-sensitive). But, in an
> experiment run by Paul two days ago, no elevation-dependency on the
> 'auto-cross' phase was seen. (This monitors the phase difference in
> the injected noise-diode signal -- and so is not an astronomical
> observation). Arguments based on a temperature effect in my data are
> hard to sustain, as the outside temperatures on the night of my
> observations were exceptionally uniform throughout the period -- and
> it was quite breeezy as well. These results argue for an origin
> preceding the injection of the noise diode signal.
>
> So -- what to do next to isolate the cause(s)?
>
> I'd like to try the 'over-the-top' observation. If the effect is
> truly due to an elevation-dependent effect within the antenna, then it
> should continue to increase as the antenna is tilted 'over backwards'
> -- the antenna elevation is then greater than 90 degrees. This should
> cleanly separate effects due to elevation from those due to HA or
> parallactic angle. Observing OTT also reverses the orientation of the
> R and L 'squint' beams, so should be definitive in eliminating that
> origin.
>
> I suggest we do this with sources which transit both to the north, and
> to the south of the zenith. All my current examples are from sources
> which transit on the south side.
>
> Doing this with the current 'A' configuration might also illuminate
> any dependencies on antenna placement -- despite all our antennas
> nominally having parallel azimuth axes, sources will transit at
> slightly different times. I don't think this is an issue -- but who
> knows? We might be surprised ...
>
> This is a fair investment of time -- a few hours. But I think we need
> to do something like this to make any progress in isolating the
> origin(s).
>
> Rick
>
>
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