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<div>I have added an example $TRACK section for VDIF to the GitHub wiki doco.</div>
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<div>Specifically:</div>
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track_frame_format = VDIF/8032/2;
fanout_def = A : &CH01 : sign : 1 : 00;
fanout_def = A : &CH01 : mag : 1 : 01;
fanout_def = A : &CH02 : sign : 1 : 02;
fanout_def = A : &CH02 : mag : 1 : 03;
fanout_def = A : &CH03 : sign : 1 : 04;
fanout_def = A : &CH03 : mag : 1 : 05;
fanout_def = A : &CH04 : sign : 1 : 06;
fanout_def = A : &CH04 : mag : 1 : 07;
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<div>Note the /2 above is # bits not #channels. The “track” number has to be 00..N*2. (Where N=#channels), I think. (It used to be)</div>
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<div>Also I am not sure this is correct for vex2 support.</div>
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<div>But I agree with Adam - creating a bespoke VEX created from an existing vex is “wrong”. I would suggest writing a bespoke .key file and generating Vex with Sched. But NRAO schedule does not properly support VDIF (I don’t believe) and psyched as some issues.
For a number of different projects I know Adam ad I have code which automatically generates the .key file - this works pretty well.</div>
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<div>We (LBA) tend to schedule as Mark5B and then I have perl scripts to VDIF-ify the .vex. They are part of DIFX code, I can point you at them if you want.</div>
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<div>Cheers</div>
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I'm wanting to get difx running on VDIF files to correlate e-merlin data (I'm at Jodrell Bank). Ultimately, we want to correlate streaming data, not files. It turns out it's not that easy to get a vex file I can look at, we don't create them here so we have
to dig out appropriate 3<sup>rd</sup> party ones that I'm allowed to look at. It is happening though.</div>
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The VDIF files are not from an observation, they contain continuous wave data generated for testing. They are valid though. But the error that I'm getting is from vex2difx and the contents of the files haven't been inspected at that point, so it is something
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I've got difx running on the example data set so I can test it and know it is working on LBA files. Then I swap in the VDIF and focus on any problems there.</div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b> Adam Deller <<a href="mailto:adeller@astro.swin.edu.au">adeller@astro.swin.edu.au</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 24 June 2024 05:32<br>
<b>To:</b> Hugh Garsden <<a href="mailto:hugh.garsden@manchester.ac.uk">hugh.garsden@manchester.ac.uk</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Difx-users] Getting difx working on VDIF files - newbie {External}</span>
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Can I ask the context in which you want to make this substitution? I.e., where did you get the VDIF files, what observation are they from, etc? Generally I usually find it easier to provide sched with a key file that describes the observation correctly, and
have sched produce a vex file that describes the observation correctly, and then just use that - rather than hacking vex files, which is error prone.</div>
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That said, the information on fanout on this page may be relevant:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/Tasso.Tzioumis/vlbi/dokuwiki/doku.php/difx/fanoutdef__;!!PDiH4ENfjr2_Jw!CA9d72uf5DwNrs3sWh1NSvo6atm8ii-MoT1I24s3FFRS4tOHC1I8p1MvVp5AcjOpMFDT8NobOEFSW0e3vhMaFBFTEVx-b9Kazw$" id="OWA670e6fbb-ac32-360b-1653-bff00700ff6c" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable">https://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/Tasso.Tzioumis/vlbi/dokuwiki/doku.php/difx/fanoutdef
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On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 at 02:47, Hugh Garsden via Difx-users <<a href="mailto:difx-users@listmgr.nrao.edu" id="OWAcce2bf7d-0013-1afc-cd95-41d31073eb5c" class="OWAAutoLink">difx-users@listmgr.nrao.edu</a>> wrote:</div>
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I'm new to difx and I want to run it on VDIF files. I've seen some recent mails about VDIF files so they are obviously being used, but I was looking at the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/difx/difx/wiki/vex2difx*vdif-issues__;Iw!!PDiH4ENfjr2_Jw!CA9d72uf5DwNrs3sWh1NSvo6atm8ii-MoT1I24s3FFRS4tOHC1I8p1MvVp5AcjOpMFDT8NobOEFSW0e3vhMaFBFTEVy0RbDJrw$" id="x_m_7919744823270802123LPlnk127304" class="OWAAutoLink" title="https://github.com/difx/difx/wiki/vex2difx#vdif-issues" data-auth="NotApplicable"><font color="red"><b>MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "urldefense.com" claiming to be</b></font> <font color="red"><b>MailScanner
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[github.com]</a> for VDIF information it seems to be incomplete: "TO BE ADDED". I wondered if I could get more info or example files or something.</div>
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I have difx running on the example files in the vf252 dataset<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.atnf.csiro.au/vlbi/dokuwiki/doku.php/difx/datasets__;!!PDiH4ENfjr2_Jw!CA9d72uf5DwNrs3sWh1NSvo6atm8ii-MoT1I24s3FFRS4tOHC1I8p1MvVp5AcjOpMFDT8NobOEFSW0e3vhMaFBFTEVyf3Ry4MA$" id="x_m_7919744823270802123LPlnk167774" class="OWAAutoLink" title="https://www.atnf.csiro.au/vlbi/dokuwiki/doku.php/difx/datasets" data-auth="NotApplicable">here
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Now I want to replace the above files with two VDIF files, and make the necessary changes to the vex/v2d files to run difx. There will be changes to timing, sampling rate etc., to accomodate the new files, but the VDIF files don't contain all the information
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I made all the changes that I think are necessary, but vex2difx gives me this error:</div>
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This is often due to media not being specified, all frequency Ids being</div>
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It is also possible that the vex file is faulty and missing, e.g., an $IF</div>
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section, leading to missing polarisation information.</div>
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I think this is something to do with the $TRACKS block in the vex file. I have this in the $TRACKS:</div>
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but from the manual I think more is needed, because it says:</div>
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so I'm wondering what I'm missing. I tried adding some fanout_def statements, based on there being a single 4 bit data stream in the VDIF. Then vex2difx was happy, and vex2difx and calcif2 ran successfully, and the correlator difx started ok, but seemed to
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I've attached vex/v2d files of the set that works (LBA files) and the set that doesn't work (VDIF files).</div>
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