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<p>Yes, I was a bit surprized too... That makes things a bit easier
with just one run of ANTAB.</p>
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<p>Thanks Eric for these explanations!</p>
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<p>Just tried without running INDXR after loading the data with
FITLD, and it seems to be ok. So my new pipeline looks like:
FITLD > ANTAB > USUBA > INDXR, and I hope I am not
loosing data or scans in the way...</p>
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The reason that FITLD deletes the CL and NX tables when it
discovers a subarray condition is that it cannot correctly
determine an NX table. The same is true of INDXR. INDXR
works correctly only after USUBA. I am guessing that ANTAB
will not work without an NX table. But the logic of USUBA
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [daip] Missing scan in CL1? {External}</font>
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<p>Hello Eric,</p>
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<p>Indeed, when running FITLD > USUBA > INDXR, I see
the CL entry for source 4 subarray 2!</p>
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<p>What I use to do in my pipeline is:</p>
<p>FITLD > INDXR > ANTAB (to import tsys/gain for
non-VLBA stations ; easier to deal there since there is
only one subarray) > USUBA > INDXR (to get the
subarray info correctly in CL/NX...)<br>
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<p>I just tried FITLD > INDXR, and the CL entries for
source 4 around 17:40 are already gone.</p>
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<p>Do you know why? Do you recommand to proceed with USUBA
the earliest in the processing pipeline?</p>
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<p>Cheers,</p>
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I loaded RV158, ran USUBA, and then INDXR. With
CPARM(3)=0.15 and CPARM(4)=1, INDXR made a CL table with
13127 rows including a great many for source 4 subarray
2 in the time range 17:38:10 to<br>
17:43:34. In PRTAB INEXT='CL',rparm 3 1 4 0.1 5 1 2
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<p>Hello Eric, Amy,</p>
<p>I am analysing the global VLBI session RV158 (VLBA + 8
IVS antennas ; 24h ; S/X-band ; available at NRAO data
archive).</p>
<p>I'm looking at the source 0403-132 (#4 in my data),
which is in the index as:</p>
<p> 4 0/17:40:52.0 00:05:24.0 4
2 9992 14396</p>
<p>(as you can see, I have subarrays in my dataset)</p>
<p>For this scan, there is data (checked with VPLOT).</p>
<p>However, this scan is NOT in CL1, which was created
after loading the data (FITLD) by runnig INDXR. CL1 was
(normally?) updated after running USUBA by running INDXR
again.</p>
<p><i>How is that possible? Any clue why this scan is not
in CL1?</i></p>
<p>Moreover, I am building SN1 from TY1/GC1, and I have
gain amplitude values for this scan. Is there a way to
get this into CL2 (with CLCAL)? Or since there is not
row in CL1 for this scan, no hope to get it in CL2?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance for your help!</p>
<p>Best wishes,</p>
<p>Arnaud</p>
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